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CJD in venison - 2006/11/16 01:45 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?holding=npg&cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11594928&dopt=Abstract

I don't think I'll be eating any wild game.

-Rubystars



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/16 05:05 It just said that suspicion was increasing. I don't think it made a claim about an increase in cases.

Correct. However, it may be safer not to eat deer until the evidence indicates for sure that it's safe. Several years ago there was a scare about strawberries being infected with bacteria that was making people sick. It turns out that the vast majority of the strawberries were safe, but people stopped buying them for a couple of weeks and the farmers lost a lot of money. Still, given the risk, I think it was the safest course of action not to buy them.

Since CJD can take a while to develop they may not be showing signs yet even if they were infected. But yes, there are many variables in this story.

I think she's just being careful to avoid a potential threat.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/17 01:33 I wasn't talking about what happens in the kitchen. I was talking about things like CJD which are in the meat itself.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/17 04:58 I don't know where you pulled all of this from. I was talking about the safety of venison, not anything else. You keep trying to change the subject then you say I'm selfish for wanting to stick to the original topic.

Obviously you have nothing to add of any relevance or you wouldn't keep trying to talk about peanuts, sandwiches, and whatever else you think you'd rather make this thread about.

I read something in alt.food.vegan about a year ago with an incident where this poster's daughter got violently ill from a dark chocolate bunny marked
"Vegan" because it had traces of milk in it.

I think people have a right to know that they could get CJD from venison.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/17 06:34 You don't know that. It's a dominant theory, but researchers have not definitively concluded that damaged prions are the cause.

The prion theory to which most non-experts have been exposed holds that *anyone* would become infected.

He's touching on these other topics because they are related. Just as you and most people don't have peanut allergies, nor are you deathly allergic to insect stings and bites, so is it as well that most people who consume venison in areas in which CWD is common do not get nvCJD.

At first I thought Michael's point, which he restated in a subsequent post, was a bit strong, but I now think he's right: you aren't really concerned with the broad issue of contamination of food. You seem to be peculiarly focused on one narrow aspect of it, an aspect that has a decidedly political dimension.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/17 10:36 I've been stung by a wasp and bitten by fire ants before, I didn't fall over and die.

Being a wild meat there's no inspectors between me and it. No way to tell if it can pass on anthrax, trichinonsis, or CJD. Beef has to pass USDA inspection.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/17 15:26 CJD isn't caused by an allergy, it's caused by prions. I'm glad that not everyone is susceptible though.

Yeah, people with milk allergies have to be super careful too. Even chocolate labeled "Safe for vegans" can have milk traces in it if it was made in the same factory as milk chocolate.

You're hopping all over all these different topics when my original post was about the threat of CJD in venison. Hunters may believe that the meat they get from deer and other wild animals is "clean" because it wasn't pumped full of hormones, etc. but that's not always true, as the tragic death of that one man that I posted about shows.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/17 16:27 They raise and kill their own animals, and farm all their own vegetables and grains so they know they can trust what they put in that sandwich?

Yup.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/17 23:05 There is still a lot of demand for marbled meat.



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/18 00:37 http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/deadly201.cfm

Suspicion that a fatal, incurable illness can spread from infected deer to humans is increasing. Here, a special report on chronic wasting disease and how one hunter may have lost his life from it.
Jay Dee Whitlock was a husband and father, a sportsman from Oklahoma with a passion for deer hunting. But in January 1999, his wife, Julie, noticed he was forgetting phone numbers and seemed confused while driving. When Julie voiced her concerns, Jay Dee said it was nothing, and Julie told herself she was overreacting. Everyone forgets something, right?

But a few weeks later, two of Jay Dee's coworkers called on her. "They said he was more and more withdrawn at work," Julie Whitlock remembers, "that he wouldn't eat lunch with people." A truck driver for six years, Jay Dee was also having problems delivering his loads. Before, "You'd give him an address and directions, and he'd find it 400 miles away," Whitlock says. But now, said his coworkers, Jay Dee couldn't locate places he'd delivered to in the past. "It just made me sick when they told me that," Whitlock says.

Over the next 15 terrible months, in and out of various hospitals and, at the last, a nursing home, Julie watched helplessly as Jay Dee deteriorated physically, mentally, and emotionally from Creutzfeldt-Jakob (pronounced
CROYTS-felt YAH-kob) disease, or CJD. It is untreatable, incurable, and always fatal. While Whitlock says doctors have no idea how her husband contracted this dreadful disease, no one can rule out the venison Jay Dee regularly ate.

"I'll never touch another deer," says Whitlock, "or eat deer meat ever again."



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re:CJD in venison - 2006/11/18 04:32 Your reaction, and that of Wenonah Hauter (wow!), indicate that it IS largely an aesthetic issue.



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