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Karen Winter of Santa Fe, NM advocates adult men fucking pre - 2007/01/13 17:07 Yes, they do, by *necessary* implication. They are an advocacy group for adult men having sex with boys, boys of *any* age. They don't *emphasize* any particular sex acts in their propaganda, but because some part of the population of queer men wants to fuck pre-teen boys up the ass, and because they, and you, claim that pre-teen boys could give consent, they are by
*necessary* implication advocating anal penetration of young boys by adult men.

Only a liar and sophist like you could pretend otherwise.

False, and a typical example of your usual sleazy sophistry. They advocate legal protection for an action, anal penetration of young boys by adult men, that rational people - not the perverts - feel is intrinsically harmful to the children, whether or not the children feel it is.

Their view, which you support, is that boys of any age are capable of giving informed consent to submit to anal penetration.

I did:

NAMBLA's goal is to end the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships by:

# building understanding and support for such relationships;
# educating the general public on the benevolent nature of man/boy love;
# cooperating with lesbian, gay, feminist, and other liberation movements;
# supporting the liberation of persons of all ages from sexual prejudice and oppression.

[...]

NAMBLA is strongly opposed to age-of-consent laws and all other restrictions which deny men and boys the full enjoyment of their bodies and control over their own lives.

http://www.nambla1.de/welcome.htm

By NECESSARY IMPLICATION, you filthy pervert, they advocate anal penetration of boys.



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re:Karen Winter of Santa Fe, NM advocates adult men fucking pre - 2007/01/13 18:15 I'm not. That's what you are trying to do via your sophistry.



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re:Karen Winter of Santa Fe, NM advocates adult men fucking pre - 2007/01/13 21:19 No, there is no fascist concept at work; your reflexive resort to the word has robbed it of all meaning.

NAMBLA is an organization of queer men who want to have sex with boys. That means it includes fucking boys up the ass.

It is entirely true and fully warranted. The organization is seeking the abolition of age-of-consent laws PRECISELY because they wish to be able to fuck boys in the ass, and not be presumptively guilty of rape based solely on the age of the victim.

Only a liar and a sophist would say otherwise.

The ONLY reason your NAMBLA criminal buddies seek to repeal age-of-consent laws is to allow ANY sex with children, as long as they think they can plausibly make a claim that the child "consented". You are seeking to enable them in this; you support rape of boys.

Harm is *not* irrelevant. There is a well-founded presumption of harm, just as you falsely believe children are harmed by being taught eating meat is morally acceptable.

By implication, it does: it's precisely what NAMBLA is seeking to enable by eliminating age-of-consent laws.
They are not seeking to promote cuddling; cuddling is not proscribed by age-of-consent laws.

They do.

You advocate men fucking boys up the ass. It is an ironclad, unavoidable implication of your opposition to age-of-consent laws.



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re:Karen Winter of Santa Fe, NM advocates adult men fucking pre - 2007/01/14 01:18 The sole purpose of NAMBLA is to get rid of age-of-consent laws that criminalize (on the part of the adult) all sex with children. A queer getting a boy to blow him, or the queer blowing the boy, is not defined as rape; it's covered by "lewd act upon a child" laws, the same as those for which Michael
Jackson is being prosecuted. NAMBLA wants to get rid of statutory rape laws as well as the lewd acts upon children laws. They want to fuck young boys in the ass, and Karen Winter is trying to help them do just that.



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