flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 |   |
Karma: 0
|
Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/07 06:12
It's worth noting that multi million pound charities like the
CONservation hooligans RSPB spend nothing & donate nothing towards finding non lethal alternatives to wildlife controls, they continue with the desire to see millions of animals slaughtered each year in unnecessary culling measures, usually provided by their sporting partners who do much of the culling.
The RSPB oversee the slaughter of deer, ruddy duck etc each reason they give for the slaughtered is easily countered by the use of immunocontraceptives.
Remember this next time they ask for a donation, your money is being used to slaughter wildlife.
http://www.dal.ca/~pubrel/media/2003/2003-08-21.html
Funding will help control the pet population
Thursday, August 21, 2003: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Dalhousie University has received funding to continue its research into groundbreaking pet contraceptive vaccines. Sharing a $132,000 (U.S.) grant with the University of FloridaÂ’s Dr. Julie Levy, the funding comes from PETsMART Charities, a non-profit charity dedicated to saving the lives of homeless pets.
SpayVac™ is a fertility control vaccine that can be injected into a female animal to produce an immune response that provides contraception for multi-year periods from a single injection. This funding will help Dr. Bill Pohajdak and colleagues in Dalhousie
Biology develop a SpayVac™ formulation for domestic cats.
SpayVac™ will be the first product created using the exceptional vaccine platform technology, VacciMax, ™ that was also developed at
Dalhousie. ImmunoVaccine Technologies Inc. (IVT) is a biotechnology company providing a unique liposome-based single-dose vaccine platform, trade-named VacciMax™ to companies seeking to develop enhanced-response vaccines. IVT’s first products are immunocontraceptive vaccines for controlling animal fertility, under the trade name SpayVac™.
“This generous donation by PETsMART Charities is a welcome validation of SpayVac™ as a unique, humane method for the responsible control of domestic pet populations,” said Dr. Warwick Kimmins, the President and
CEO of ImmunoVaccine Technologies Inc., a partner of this research.
“It is an indication of the enormous need for a product like this by animal shelters around the world.” Kimmins is also the former Dean of the Faculty of Science at Dalhousie.
Previously, wildlife applications have been developed for SpayVac™.
The vaccine is custom designed for each species, to achieve the optimum dosage. SpayVac™ can achieve multi-year 100 percent contraception, whereas other vaccines require follow-up boosters and most often annual boosters.
Dalhousie University is a comprehensive, research-intensive institution with an enrolment of more than 14,500 students annually.
For further information, contact:
Dr. Bill Pohajdak, Department of Biology, Dalhousie University, Tel:
902.494.1853
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/07 07:16
You don't say! well here's a tip, always cross reference anything you see on the net or even in a book, check and double check.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/07 13:08
Spay-vac is and was designed for many animal species, especially wildlife, in fact most of the research has been done on deer populations which present the biggest wildlife populations.
Silly and irrelevant question, but the answer is no.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/07 16:53
That's the way it's managed, the hunters DONT want deer numbers dropping and will never allow it to happen.
It's all huff and blow, grant digging exercises, a CON.
Immunocontraception will control most deer problems in five years, there are many other non lethal alternatives. The best thing that can be done is to get rid of the crooks in CONservation and ensure proper people are brought in to manage wildlife properly.
That's strange, most people claim one of the reasons for culling is because the deer become so unhealthy, yet another myth?
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/07 18:23
It's the problem with wildlife the world over which is why they need managing, you are both starting to sound like Dick when he has no argument to come back with. Why are you stating the obvious as if you have just come up with a revelation, why do you think immunocontraceptives are being developed, sweeties for wildlife?
There are many successful non lethal methods of keeping deer out of gardens.
Erm, by birth control! do you even know what we are talking about here? do you think the birth control is voluntary and only for the deer who do not want any more children? or you really as dumb as
Fester?
Spoken by a true sport hunter, with no wish to actually resolve the problem, just to ensure his target supply is maintained.
It's shooting that has actually got us where we are today, there has been nothing else.
Of course, it's only weirdos that would want to slaughter wildlife.
Before you come back, try to read up on the problems and the non lethal solutions we have. Currently you Don't appear to have a clue what we are even discussing.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/08 00:58
So much of their money is spent exposing the CON in conservation, all thing considered, they do an excellent job.
They already do by exposing groups like the RSPB who slaughter millions of animals whilst conning the public that they actually protect wildlife.
You seem to be confusing those, like yourself who enjoy abusing animals, and get pleasure from the distress and suffering it causes, with those who seek wildlife management in a non lethal manner. If it's possible to control and manage all wildlife in a non lethal manner, then of course it should be used.
Sadly this would never satisfy fruitcakes like yourself, this is why we also must legislate against animal abuse, hence the hunting with hounds bans.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/08 05:40
Comes a point when one needs to admit someone is taking the P and we are the mugs paying for it. Is it any wonder Deer Commission, DI,
RSPB, English nature etc never actually manage to manage deer, when they are all so deeply involved with hunting groups, who will never, ever agree to manageable deer populations. Do you have any idea the millions of £s in tax payers money that is poured into this bottomless pit?
The only solution is to separate the bedfellows, hunting and sustainable wildlife management simply do not mix. If there were a real intention to bring deer to a national, sustainable level they could do it in a year, by slaughtering 300,000 as a priority which is what they claim is necessary, it never happens and will never happen.
Why? because they simply don't want to kill the golden goose.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/08 08:52
You would benefit greatly from actually reading the urls that have been given and studying the research properly, your concerns are addressed in full.
Why should they do it for free? do the people culling currently do it for free? no.
You are confusing hunting with wildlife control, completely different areas. Wildlife management in conservation is a completely different area and without doubt the hunting estates will continue, all that will happen is the false excuses given for hunting will be less.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/08 19:38
Don't be a silly billy saunby, you are talking nonsense, AR advocates actually want the animals left alone or managed properly, I don't see anything, anywhere in the world to back up your deranged ramblings, perhaps you could show us where you saw these?
Have you had your medications today?
The real saunby loony tune steps forward, the one who likes to have sex with animals.
Does it really get you michael, to know you are the only person in the room that no one listens to, you who thought you were God, but actually have been shown to be a mental, deficient, loony tune retard who just happens to like having sex with animals!
how are the PTAs? Bwahahahahahahahaha school governors my arse.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
Matt H
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 29 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 00:12
This reminds me of a discussion I had on controlling deer populations in Ohio. Instead of shooting the bucks with high velocity rifles, I suggested shooting them in the flanks with a contraceptive pellet from an air rifle.
"What if these bucks could be sterilised using a pellet, much like the lead pellets used in air rifles. Could they be shot in the flank with these quite rifles to avoid frightening the rest away?
[Large-scale studies are scheduled to begin by the end of the year.
Rekers said a male contraceptive pill or *implant* could be available by 2005.] *my emphasis*
http://europe.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/09/08/your.health.male/ firstoftwins Date: 2002-01-22
Popular posts by Matt H
Line 3 too long. Ping Trent Klatt
DEREK THE DODGER
Hey DereK
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 00:41
Which is why they need management, why we need management, why the world needs management. Shooting wildlife is NOT managing it as can clearly be seen..
What? do you even read subject lines, have you even read the URLs given?
The deer, as with all wildlife will manage themselves to live within their range, however where this is unsuitable to humans then we manage them to numbers that suit the powers to be and then that number is maintained by humans.
Which is where management comes in, SpayVac etc there is no miracle cure, the harm man has done to wildlife will take a long time to recover, the road is long, I may not be there at the end etc.
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
flandehuevo
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 36 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 09:16
You mean like you didn't saunby, in your original response? do as I say and not as I do eh!
Ar is here to stay saunby. You lose, which probably explains why you are so neurotic <snigger>
Pete who? does he have sex with animals like you do saunby, has he ever been convicted like you, does he have sex with his sister like you, does his sister's child call you daddy saunby, does this all compute loony tune, you claim to be a member of the school govenors saunby, yet the school govenors have never heard of you and your son is in retard school due to a mental imbalance because you had sex with your sister, not nice saunby.
Here is fine thank you, perhaps you would like to complain to our
ISPs, see if they will fight your battles for you Mr GoatFucker?
Bwahahaha <snigger>
This was a fine thread till you come along saunby, do you not have some animals to shag?
Huge, double <snigger> not quite going to plan is it saunby, do you feel left out in the cold, isolated, PLONKed even? Bwahahahahahaha
How we do love to rub your nose in it, such pleasure from so slight an effort, if only one could bottle it.
Ooops you do daily...LOL
Popular posts by flandehuevo
RSPB & Woodland Trust corporate...
Cute Animal Rights movie "Lega...
CAMBRIDGE SHOCK TRUTH ABOUT PRIMATE...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
ajanian
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 39 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 09:33
Lying again Ogilvie. Current culling measures are designed to maintain artificially high numbers of animals for the sporting estates, of which the RSPB are members, it gives their partners plenty of targets to shoot at.
Yes, lets dissect it properly shall we, see if we can he deliberate lies and deceits Ogilvie hopes we wont notice.
This is despite decades of so called management by CONservation hooligans like the RSPB. Shooting wildlife simply does not work.
Both in bed deeply with the hunting fraternity and great advocates of sport shooting.
AGain through terrible management by the CONservation hooligans, if slaughtering millions of animals annually doesnt work, by their logic the next step wouyld be nuke them!! it's a nonsense.
I smell another ruddy duck fiasco, how long before the RSPB suddenly aquire new grants?
Only through bad management, good land managers know everything that is on their land.
<snip the CONservation hooligans canned response> blame everyone and everything but themselves!
The FC come up with new ideas which require huge public funding even more regular than the RSPB con us out of grants, yet deer numbers remain almost exactly the same, year in, year out and have done for decades, who is kidding who?
There is a national slaughter policy and has been for many years, millions of animals are slaughtered each year, it just doesnt work, culling is a lie and a deep seated CON put out by anyone involved in hunting including the RSPB who have hunting partners.
Popular posts by ajanian
'Operation Chough'. why the RSPB tr...
Naturalist in 'ecological fascist' ...
Island's hedgehog cull proves an ex...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
ajanian
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 39 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 10:48
They are slaughtering the deer gormless, in case you have not noticed, it hasnt work in a hundred years as a method of controlling wildlife.
Popular posts by ajanian
'Operation Chough'. why the RSPB tr...
Naturalist in 'ecological fascist' ...
Island's hedgehog cull proves an ex...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
ajanian
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 39 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 11:44
They have been using darts, often fired from an air cartridge gun. The stress factor fades into insignificance when compared to being hunted down, chased and shot with a sport rifle.
If only there was such willingness for trials in conservation, but what's it matter when there are just a few million animals involved each year!
Sad but very true.
Popular posts by ajanian
'Operation Chough'. why the RSPB tr...
Naturalist in 'ecological fascist' ...
Island's hedgehog cull proves an ex...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
indros
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 46 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 15:22
<..>
Overexploited for livestock.
June 14, 2003, 9:53PM
Towns turning to alternatives amid drought
Hard-hit border region striving tocope with severe water crisis
By JAMES PINKERTON
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle
'.. "It's bad when you have little critters from the pasture coming into town looking for water," said Patti Clark, a cafeteria worker in tiny Wink, where folks have endured two 110-degree days and one of 113 in May. "We've had skunks, lots of them, foxes and deer. The coyotes are coming up closer than usual, and we feel sure it's because they're looking for water."
Out in West Texas, longtime ranchers like Odell "Pinky" Carruthers swear the current drought is more severe than the benchmark 1950s drought, when ranchers were forced to fell live oaks and other trees to feed starving herds.
"It's absolutely terrible," said Carruthers, 67, who runs the ranch established by his grandfather near Sanderson in 1928. "I tell you this drought is a whole lot worse than it was in the '50s, by far. I was here then, and the old country is a lot more bare now than it was then."
Carruthers said Terrell County, near the Big Bend, has been dry for 12 years.
He has given up ranching and sold the sheep he once grazed. Over the years, he's reduced his ranch holdings from 65,000 to 20,000 acres.
"Livestock has been a liability, not an asset, for a good while in this country," the rancher said. "I used to run 4,000 sheep or better, and I doubt if there's
4,000 sheep in the county today in Terrell County. And I imagine there used to be 200,000 or 300,000 or more." ..
Popular posts by indros
Canadian Baby Seal Hunt Continues
SEAL ACTION ALERT!
Blood Country - Texas shame
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
ajanian
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 39 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 18:04
Lots of info on google, a relatively new technology so watch out for the dates & showing it coming on leaps and bounds in a few short years. The RSPB etc could be testing the stuff today if only they really were interested in non lethal intervention, which they are not because their hunting partners would not allow it..
http://tinyurl.com/lkif
http://tinyurl.com/lkj1
http://tinyurl.com/lkj4
http://tinyurl.com/lkj7
None of the table top CONservation hooligans have shown any interest, these include RSPB, Woodland Trust, English Nature, SNH, WWT, The
Wildlife Trusts.
Popular posts by ajanian
'Operation Chough'. why the RSPB tr...
Naturalist in 'ecological fascist' ...
Island's hedgehog cull proves an ex...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
ajanian
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 39 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/09 22:11
They already DO have a very large place in cross species contraception, including human! Duh.
And shootinghunting doesn't do this already? you need to actually try doing just a little research into the matter.
And here is a man who wont change his mind, just because he doesn't want to, thankfully you will never be anywhere near decision making.
Popular posts by ajanian
'Operation Chough'. why the RSPB tr...
Naturalist in 'ecological fascist' ...
Island's hedgehog cull proves an ex...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
ajanian
User
Junior Member
| Posts: 39 | |
Karma: 0
|
re:Spay-Vac® still gaining ground, immunocontraceptive vacci - 2005/05/10 01:55
Well at least we can now see your real motive for refusing to accept the truth. A hunter by any other name etc.
Popular posts by ajanian
'Operation Chough'. why the RSPB tr...
Naturalist in 'ecological fascist' ...
Island's hedgehog cull proves an ex...
|
|
|
| | | post reply |
|
post new topic