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If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/18 17:48 It would be better for:

1/ That particular animal
2/ Animal Kind
3/ My sandwich
4/ World as a whole



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/18 21:51 Then livestock animals' existence is not a "benefit" to them; it's a benefit to those who consume them. But that's not what you and Fuckwit Harrison were saying earlier.



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 02:32 Well, that's four things. We still have yet to learn for whom or what it might be "better"/"more moral" to prevent them from coming into existence. The "ARAs" consistently have nothing to offer, and the Gonad is the best example of them all.



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 03:24 Perhaps you didn't need to do, but you have done. You are a liar and a shit-stirring sophist, and you don't even believe your own bullshit. You're absurdly enamored of what you stupidly believe to be your fluency in philosophical matters. Take it from me, fucktard: you are incompetent.



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 07:11 That's your fundamental error, and if you can't get the basics right, you have no hope with the big stuff. I do NOT believe eating animals is wrong. I am a meat eater; dairy, too. I wear leather and wool. I consume animals.

It isn't my argument, whatever your rubbish is.



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 08:05 Then livestock animals' existence is not a "benefit" to them; it's a benefit to those who consume them. But that's not what you and Fuckwit Harrison were saying earlier.



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 10:20 depends how you [choose] to use the word 'interest'

it is in the best interest of animal kind that it's populous is retained/replaced/managed (includes the birth of an individual animal) - another fact!



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 12:33 Where abouts in my header "If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak" did i conceal it???????

i have proved benefits for allllllllll - including moi!



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 17:14 What a moron! You continue to impress me with how stupid you are Gonad. Now we have seen that you can't understand how livestock animals' existence could be a benefit to them, and also to those who consume them. What a moron!!!



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/19 22:03 say you - your royal wrongness



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/20 01:14 there is no 'better improvement' than life over non-existence - a relationship between the two that can easily be considered (by an animal that's alive to consider it)



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/20 04:12 whilst alive, you can consider 'not being' (alive) & hence make the relative judgment - if your life is a living hell, you can (will full perspective)
consider not doing it



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/20 07:09 YOU can't understand how their lives could be a benfit to them, Fuckwit, because their lives are NOT a benefit to them. It's that simple.

The animals lives are NOT any kind of "benefit" to those who consume the animals, Fuckwit; the products are.



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/20 07:23 errrrrm i know - but once existing, you can consider not existing



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/20 15:09 yes it can! - 'better' is a relative term - thus only needs a perspective - from the point of view of the [live] animal itsself (it's perspective) - it is better to be alive than not - of course it would not have any persepctive if it didn't exist - but once it does - it does - and [we] can consider 'it's' perspective - another fact!



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/20 18:01 YOU can't understand how their "lives" could be a
"benefit" to the people who consume the products,
Fuckwit, because the "lives" aren't a benefit to anyone.



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/20 20:53 you didn't answer the question:

do you think it is better (for you) that stock is not bred/born at all?

i know the answer, i am merely recruiting [your] opinion



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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/21 03:12 i'll take that as 'yes'

so do you think it's better for animalkind ('the' animal group) that stock is bred?



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Y life perse is a benefit
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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/21 03:56 you mean you've 'read' somewhere that it isn't - well you're wrong (prolly mis interpreted it) & i can prove it beyond doubt



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Y life perse is a benefit
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re:If we breed more cattle - I can get a cheaper steak - 2006/03/21 07:14 of course i have basis - i am alive and i know the difference between life/death or non-existence - i can 'assume' the animal feels the same way i would in the same situation (empathise with it) - you can argue that my 'assumptions' are wrong about [it's] feelings - but you cannot argue that it doesn't have em (you can say it's 'worse off ' - that's all)

never denied it - look at my header - but this 'benefit' is not mutually exclusive

everyone's a winner



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Y life perse is a benefit
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