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Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/05/31 23:41
Anti-PETA ads are abused on Metro
By Donna De Marco
THE WASHINGTON TIMES getting a lot of attention on Metro.
They have been ripped down and defaced since earlier this month, when they began appearing in about 700 Metrorail cars.
The Center for Consumer Freedom, a Washington-based coalition of food companies, restaurants and tavern operators, and a longtime opponent of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, paid $60,000 for the ads to run until the middle of next month.
Metro officials have been replacing some of the damaged posters every night.
"Whenever political ads run, if people have strong opinions that differ from the ads, we get people that deface them," said Metro spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein.
"Unfortunately for PETA fans, [Metro] is replacing" the defaced posters, said Mike Burita, a spokesman for the coalition.
The ad has a picture of a lab rat next to a picture of a sick child. It includes a quote from PETA President Ingrid Newkirk: "Even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we'd be against it." The ad also highlights PETA's boycotts of charities such as the
March of Dimes and the Pediatric AIDS Foundation because they may use animals in medical research.
Jeff Kerr, general counsel for PETA, said Consumer Freedom falsely attributed the quote in the ad to Ms. Newkirk and that part of it was taken out of context.
"The entire attack on us is a false scenario," Mr. Kerr said. "We take this attack as a sign of our effectiveness." Consumer Freedom has received hundreds of e-mail messages — from
and other efforts. It's about time people with common sense fight back. ..."
animals. How can anyone agree with animal testing? They should use prisoners. ... Leave the little helpless animals alone." "There's a growing awareness among the public that animal testing is unnecessary, outdated and unreliable," Mr. Kerr said.
The ads direct viewers to Consumer Freedom's Web site, where they will find a section dedicated to the group's fight against PETA. In the past year, the group has run anti-PETA TV ads on national cable and in local markets as well as a print ad in Time magazine. This is the first Consumer Freedom ad to run on Metro property.
"People inside the Beltway are well-read and know about issues,"
Mr. Burita said. "We thought this would be a good venue to try out." Mr. Burita said the ad has generated the biggest response from any of its local or regional campaigns.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/01 00:46
That is what they need.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/01 05:15
Out of curiousity, what is the reason?
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/01 11:29
which were not necessary. Probably most that have been done imo...I say that only because I saw psychology students do behavior experiments with pigeons in college. Those were not necessary to the psychology world, but were done to teach students how to do them to prepare them for doing more significant research in the future. I would hope medical students are taught such things as well.
The "ARAs" seem to be getting a lot of credit for what is happening. Do they deserve it? What happens when only necessary experiments are carried out...will "ARAs" then think it's okay and stop their terrorism?
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/01 15:59
I always thought that dogs, and cats too, joined with us humans because they wanted to not because we captured them and forced them to be our pets.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/01 17:03
Although I disagree with PETA I don't believe they do any such thing.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/01 20:45
Hell 'I've spelled off wrong, best acknowledge before 'Useless Object' corrects me.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/02 03:36
I've heard that too. It makes sense to me.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/02 05:48
For one thing it's quite obvious that people are aware of the differences, and that they learned of them from animal research.
It's also likely that understanding the differences and how they work can lead to useful treatment of humans based on such information. It's also a pretty safe bet that humans wouldn't do experiments on 23 million rats in a year if they didn't gain anything from doing so. What percentage of those rats do you think are forced to indure a significant amount of suffering btw?
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/02 06:33
"Neuter, Don't Kill, Feral Cats"
A coalition of animal groups - including Cat Rescue, Animal Resource
officials on Tuesday to halt a pilot program aimed at rounding up and killing cats.
The groups asked the city council to use the money earmarked for this project to trap, neuter and release (TNR) feral cats, explaining that a TNR policy is cheaper and more effective than euthanizing feral cats.
Mayor Joe Frank told them that council members would explore alternatives.
"They're living creatures, so why kill them just because they don't live in a house?"
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/02 15:04
He's telling 'lys' Steve.
He failed to give one instance of 'PETA' "Wacking-em. neither has he answered your question.
Come on Rick, get your hairy arse of that tractor and give us some answers.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/02 15:56
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Yes, I agree, although I think we can reduce the death toll greatly.
The thing I find worst about our current use of animals, especially in the Western world, is the way we warp and limit every aspect of their lives, and frustrate their natural behaviors. Animals live and die in the wild, often in violent and painful ways, but they at least own their own lives and live free. We make animals into products, merchandise, things, ignoring our kinship with them and our obligations of stewardship. Our tyranny begins in the womb, where we control their very physical form through breeding for characteristics WE find useful or attractive, often to the detriment of the animal's health and ability to survive on his/her own. We create cripples, and then congratulate ourselves that we keep them alive, and breed for ever more extreme and unnatural creatures -- whether as companion animals or
"food" animals. We keep them in unnatural situations, or create unnatural situations. There is a difference in degree between the starving stray on the city street, the chicken in a battery cage or pig in a confinement cage, the fighting or racing dog, and the pampered dog (often unhealthy) waiting for his owner to come home and let him out to pee, or the bored parrot in his cage -- a difference, but only one of degree, not kind. There are compensations, especially for loved and respected companions kept by knowledgeable guardians, but it is seldom the animal's choice as to whether those compensations make up for the restrictions. Animals are our slaves, and, as with any slaves, we may treat them well or badly, but they remain slaves. They should be, as St. Francis put it, our brothers and sisters.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/02 16:09
You can do both. I do.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/03 01:57
Of course cats waited until we were on a higher level of civilization before they decided to be our friends. >^^<
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/03 06:26
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Yes, it has been one of their major foci. They have helped set up kits for groups of students who want to protest frog dissection, and have helped students and their parents sue school districts to get legal exemptions so that students who don't want to dissect can still pass biology classes and get credit (using the Virtual Frog computer dissection program or a 3-D frog model). Several states
IIRC have passed laws so that this is public school policy. There's even a bumper sticker ("Proud Parents of a Student Who Won't Dissect").
You can check on the PETA website, I believe, for info on the program.
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Yes, to all that!
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/03 10:29
To me, the more we learn about "Animal Rights" the worse it gets, and it seemed like a bad idea to begin with. The whole thing is based on dishonesty. Here are some things they are dishonest about:
1. they pretend to recognise animals' right not to be killed by humans
2. they pretend to want to promote better lives for domestic animals
3. they pretend that veg*nism somehow helps/saves farm animals
4. they pretend that veg*nism always involves less death and suffering than any types of meat consumption
5. they pretend that vegans don't contribute to most of the same animal deaths that everyone else does
6. they pretend that "AR" would provide longer lives for domestic animals
7. they pretend to recognise animals' right to freedom
8. they pretend that "AR" would produce wild populations of animals from domestic animals
9. they pretend that starvation, disease and non-human predators would be better methods of wildlife population management than humans doing it directly
10. they pretend that animal medical research is of no value
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/03 11:00
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They don't.
They do euthanize animals taken in rescues if the animals are too ill or injured to survive, or have any quality of life. In PETA's case, that is not uncommon, because they usually do not get into rescue as an organization (as opposed to individual PETA members )
unless the situation is truly horrible and other, local rescue organizations have failed to take action. An example would be their campaign to upgrade the shelter system in Puerto Rico. But it is not a question of money; it is a question of the animals' welfare.
PETA's primary focus is advocacy and education. It does do rescue, and the individual members, as individuals, do a lot of rescue, but PETA as an organization concentrates on promoting vegetarianism, an end to testing on animals, vegan alternatives to leather, and so on. I've been a member since 1984, and have read their magazine outlining their work.
I donate to PETA because I think they do good work promoting hard welfare ideas and vegetarianism. I also donate to other organizations like my local no-kill shelter, rescue groups, Farm Sanctuary, People for A Native Ecology ( prairie-dog feeding, rescue, and relocation and creating a short-grass prairie sanctuary here in New Mexico) and so on. No organization can do everything, and different groups have different focuses.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/03 22:09
Wow...you learn something every day.
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re:Anti-PETA ads in D.C. - 2006/06/04 11:39
It is unusual to see something so close to a hint of honesty, but it doesn't seem to be hurting them much. The goal of "Animal Rights" organizations is *not* to provide better lives for domestic animals.
Their goal is to *eliminate* them. A better term for the gross mi$nomer
"Animal Rights" would be pEda (people for the Extinction of domestic animals):
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