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VEGETARIAN COMBINATION DIET CUTS CHOLESTEROL LEVEL - 2005/06/13 03:09
`Combination diet` cuts cholesterol level Monday, December 2, 2002
Washington, December 1 - Researchers at the University of Toronto and St Michael`s Hospital have found that a diet combining a handful of known cholesterol-lowering plant components cuts levels of LDL cholesterol - the so-called "bad" cholesterol, believed to clog coronary arteries, by close to 30 per cent.
The researchers said that the reduction is similar to that achieved by some drug treatments for high cholesterol, suggesting a possible drug-free alternative for combating the condition.
The study, published in Metabolism, is the first to examine the effects of these dietary components in combination.
Scientists have known for many years that, individually, soy proteins, nuts, viscous fibres such as those found in oats and barley, and plant sterols (a substance found in vegetable oils and also in leafy green and non-starch vegetables) have the ability to reduce blood cholesterol levels by approximately four to seven per cent.
However, the new study found that mixing these components together in a "combination diet" reduced bad cholesterol by a dramatic 29 per cent.
The finding suggests this combination diet may be as effective as the first generation of a class of drugs known as statins, which have been the standard drug therapy for high cholesterol for the last 15 years.
"This opens up the possibility that diet can be used much more widely to lower blood cholesterol and possibly spare some individuals from having to take drugs," said lead author David Jenkins, a professor in University of Toronto`s Department of Nutritional Sciences and director of the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor Modification Centre at St Michael`s Hospital.
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Re:VEGETARIAN COMBINATION DIET CUTS CHOLESTEROL LEVEL - 2005/06/13 03:41
Indian masses who are severely malnourished? Starving does not bring about better health. There is this dichotomy in India of starving masses, and masses of animals grazing the earth to dust, depriving people of valuable nutrition. Cull them down to a reasonable number of useful animals, and use the land thus freed up to grow crops for the people. As an added benefit, the culling process will also provide food and protein for the starving people in the interim, cut back on traffic hazards in the cities, and save human lives that are currently being lost in collisions with stray animals.
And, Johnny boya, that _still_ let`s you enjoy your favourite meal of Steak Staines au poivre.
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Re:VEGETARIAN COMBINATION DIET CUTS CHOLESTEROL LEVEL - 2005/06/13 05:05
Once upon a time, our fellow Dr. Jai Maharaj
LEVEL." Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
You are ancient history!
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Re:VEGETARIAN COMBINATION DIET CUTS CHOLESTEROL LEVEL - 2005/06/13 05:48
above. If yo think vegetarian diet is unhealthy, then what is your idea of a healthy diet? A diet full of fat, meat, fish, dairy, cheese, poultry??????
Vegetarian diet is nutritionally complete and is sufficient for human survival. Its a bloody myth propagated in the west that the vegetarian diet is insufficient for human sustenance. You are better off doing some research before you spew your advice. You probably don`t know what vegetarians eat and you havent a clue as to why so many vegetarians are slim, have lower levels of cholesterol and so on.......... vegetarian food made in butter and oil. So again you are wrong about associating vegetarianism with the coronary diseases. You obviously have no idea what Indians eat. factors that Indians are more susceptible to coronary diseases. Also Indians do not do much exrcise, because of the environmental conditions that exist within India. Much of India is mired with heat and humidity levels that are so extreme that it is physically impossible to even go out for a jog on crowded streets and through narrow alleys of India.
Look at this web site for more information about the causes of coronary diseases among Indians. legumes are fat free and are healthier than your CJD-infected mad-cow beef.
Once again, if you are listening and have a good understanding of what is good and bad for one`e health, you sir will stop spewing your bullshit about the "hazards" of vegetarian diet.
Excess consumption of high fat dairy products can cause health related problems, but for you to say that hindu diet is a disaster is the ultimate height of stupidity.
There is no such thing as a "hindu" diet much less as there is a "christian" diet. People all over the world eat different kinds of foods and one just has to manage their caloric intake, have a balnced meal and eat the necessary nutrienets for the body. That includes fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, soy milk, tofu and so on...for the vegetarians.
Do you have any idea how ignorant you are? Probably not!
1. Proteins - The legumes and beans in Indian diet are plentiful.
2. Fats - Oil is used for cooking, some people add butter to their cooking but the fat content of Indian diets is no more or less than a typical diet anywhere else.
3. Fruits & Vegetables - I do not understand what your problem is, sir. How can vegetarian diet be low in vegetable contents? Granted, some people do not eat fruits in large recommended servings, but I don`t know of any one here in the west that eats large quantities of fruits every day either. Most people here eat desserts, candy and chocolate after dinner, not fruits.
But Indian diet aside, your point that the vegetarian diet is unhealthy is so ridiculous, that it doesn`t even merit further discussion. You need to clarify your lies by stating explicitly that its not the vegetarian ingredients that cause the health problems. What causes health problems for Indian people is the high fat contents in their foods.
I decided to waste my time responding to your stupid post only because you thought that people who recommend vegetarian diet are somehow "cultists" spreading their "lies" with an "agenda" on their minds. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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Re:VEGETARIAN COMBINATION DIET CUTS CHOLESTEROL LEVEL - 2005/06/13 07:29
probably not substantially more harmful than a diet without, and adds to dietary variety. In some places, meat is all that is available for food, as I`m sure you are aware(being God and all). Furthermore, vegetarian propagandists seem to assume that non-vegetarians eschew vegetables and fruit, whereas the truth is that non-vegetarians eat all that the vegetarians do, and more. So, to imply that a non-vegetarian diet consists of "fat, meat, fish, dairy, cheese, poultry" is dishonest. usage of ghee(clarified butter, Indians seldom use butter in cooking except in the rich Mughlai sauces*) is not an everyday affair. I have heard fat South Indian vegetarians referred to as "sambhaar", which is a lentil soup.
In any event, the use of clarified butter in Indian cooking should not by itself be responsible for the highest incidence of cardiovascular disease in the world. Indonesia and Vietnam, all meat-eating countries. The good citizens of these countries do not use the climate as an excuse for their lethargy and general tardiness. two or three rotis/chapatis(flatbreads) either dry-roasted or very lightly fried, and about one cup of mixed vegetables kind of stir-fried or in a thickish stew. A typical South Indian meal consists of one cup of rice or millet, with either yogurt, rasam(a kind of peppery soup), sambhaar and steamed or stewed vegetables. For either group, depending on economic circumstances, some meat may be added, as well as side dishes like pappad/poppadum, Indian relishes and a dessert. But, outside of relatively rich Indian households, I have never encountered an Indian meal, veg or non-veg, that is as heavy, as greasy or as calorie-laden as a typical western home meal. I`d have to say that the fat content of a typical Indian diet is way below that of a western diet.
Where Indians go wrong is in the lack of physical activity, when caloric intake exceeds offtake. Excessive calories, whether from vegetarian or animal sources, will be stored as body fat. Body fat, as you possibly know, costs the body less to maintain than the weight equivalent of muscle, which means that an ever higher proportion of calorie intake will be diverted to fat production. A diet consistently excessive in calories will build stored fat to unhealthy levels. the truth. Jai aka Jay is a fundamentalist propagandist who uses such stories to further a specific agenda. Jay, who I refer to by his given name Johnny, is also quite adept at misrepresenting statements and articles to better serve his purpose, as the header of this thread demonstrates.
Thank you, God, for the bounty of the baked salmon I had for dinner tonight. And for the zucchini, broccoli, cauliflower and beans. And the chum-chums that my friend brought from the Indian grocery store.
*The predominance of ghee in Indian cooking derives from the hot and often humid climate, which leads to butter rapidly becoming rancid. Indians learned that clarified butter would keep for much longer than butter, and developed cooking methods that employed ghee. The exception is in the temperate areas of the far north, where the use of butter is more common, but ghee is also used substantially, due to religious significance.
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Re:VEGETARIAN COMBINATION DIET CUTS CHOLESTEROL LEVEL - 2005/06/13 09:14
Once upon a time, our fellow Groucho Marxist
LEVEL." Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ... is in the middle of these two extremes. 
"Moderate" is a relative concept.
See ~ The Nutrition of Macronutrients ~ http://food.naturalhealthperspective.com/dgtable.html For a precise definition of the correct moderate amounts for each macronutrient.
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