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lisa simpson - 2006/10/12 18:01
i was in tescos this afternoon and noticed some reconstituted chicken type product using pictures of lisa simpson to promote it (presumably to children). isn't that character a fairly outspoken vegetarian/animal rights campaigner? anyone who watches the simpsons would know this, and anyone who didn't watch it wouldn't be attracted to "food" packaging with pictures of simpsons characters on it.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/12 23:45
so that children will go "buy that mum" over and over again until it gets bought for them in preference to an identical product with normal packaging. that is the only purpose of such packaging. you'll also find it used on a lot more "bad" foods (high sugar content, etc) than on "good" foods (yoghurt being the only one i can think of that is packaged in such a way, but i probably shouldn't describe yoghurt as
"good" in this group).
it was in tescos. they pile up different types of food on shelves, and you have to walk past the shelves to get to where the food you want to buy is. and sometimes they move things, so you can't really walk around with your eyes shut.
there's no point licensing characters if you're going to use them out of character.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/13 02:10
it doesn't make any difference what the actress who plays lisa simpson is, it's the character that is being used to sell reconstituted chicken products. did you know that the original actor who played ronald mcdonald is a vegetarian now? that doesn't stop the character from being used to entice children into developing unhealthy eating habits that are going to cause them considerable problems in later life.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/13 05:33
when they're used completely out of character, most people familiar with those characters (ie the target market) would notice.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/13 08:24
While frolicking around in alt.food.vegan, usual suspect of Road
Runner - Texas said:
To claim that the OP is fascinated and taken by chicken products.
Maybe the right term should be "ad-hom", but you're not getting away from the fact that it was a dirty trick to pull when the OP said that s/he had just walked by and happened to notice it that you then responded with a childish "I think you just like looking at chickenage" just because the term I used for it might not have been technically correct.
There's no Lisa Simpson off screen. She only exists, fictionally. The woman doing her voice is not "Lisa Simpson off TV" either, so that argument doesn't work.
However, she does exist, fictionally and *can* be used out of character.
That *is* artistic license and it makes sense within the fictional universe it happens in. Lisa Simpson being used to promote chicken products is not artistic license: It's some marketing people seeing something which they can use to sell things and using it without caring about the fictional connection it might be taken from or how the characters are used within that connection, because that's how marketing people work - It's their job to just look at what will sell and what won't.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/13 12:13
grown ups would just choose whichever chicken type product they had a preference for, their buying decision wouldn't be swayed by cartoon characters. they wouldn't use terms like "grown ups" either.
ronald mcdonald isn't real either, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be out of character for him to become a hunt saboteur. in your rush to sneer you seem to have missed the point completely.
of course it does.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/13 14:33
i bet you're a bundle of laughs at the cinema.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/14 04:01
While frolicking around in alt.food.vegan, usual suspect of Road
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It's called pester power. Marketing people use it deliberately because they know that it works.
I can't believe you'd stoop to this slander and false accusations.
Address what's being said instead.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/14 06:20
No actress *plays* Miss Simpson. Miss Simpson is a character devised by
Matt Groening. An actress lends her voice during production, but Miss
Simpson is an artistic rendering (most likely done by computer, though the show may be done by hand; I'm not that big of a fan). Mr Groening is free to do what he wants with his characters. Miss Simpson off television may in fact prefer speed metal to jazz and reconstituted chickenage to tofu; she may also be quite slutty, we just don't know.
No, and I really don't care. Ronald McDonald is not a real person, but rather a trademarked commercial image used to sell fastfood. What actors or others do or how they change is their own personal business, and it's of no importance or relevance to the rest of us.
Entice? Oh, please. That's like saying Joe Camel is responsible for youth smoking habits.
Only if they actually develop poor eating habits in the first place. An occasional trip to McD's isn't going to cause any child any future problems.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/14 08:52
i have no idea who that is, we obviously didn't get his tv series. but do you seriously doubt that mcdonalds actively markets itself at young children? the last campaign i noticed revolved around the tweenies, pre-school characters aimed at 2-3 year olds. do you think it's a good idea to ween children of that age on food like that? if you have any children, or know anyone who has children, you will know that at that age they are very quick to develop likes and dislikes. and once they find a food they really like they won't eat anything else.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/14 13:24
I prefer books to movies. I'm fun wherever I am, though.
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/14 17:40
not even in meal scenes? if they don't eat, what would be the point of krusty burgers and the kwik-e-mart?
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re:lisa simpson - 2006/10/14 22:23
I have no problem with their marketing strategies. I do object to parents who let their children sit in front of the telly all bloody day and night. My objections are based on poor programming, not so much about the advertising (which I really don't find offensive). The reason we have so many fat and dull people isn't how they fill their bellies, but how they fill their heads. There's a reason why it's called "idiot box," and it has nothing to do with marketing.
The kids in my family know we don't go to fastfood places when they visit me or I visit them. They're pretty cool with it. Then again, their little lives do not revolve around television sets, video games, or golden arches.
Eventually they will, at least if they're adventurous (and many kids are). Do *you* eat the same old crap you ate when you were seven years old? I sure know I don't. Tastes change, and sometimes quite dramatically.
Your hasty over-generalizations are unappreciated because they're quite far off the mark. Most parents don't feed their children fastfood three meals per day seven days per week.
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