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food animals - 2006/12/01 08:16 is there a reason why most/all food animals are naturally herbivorous?
i know people eat dogs in some countries, but are there any other naturally carnivorous animals that are used for food?



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re:food animals - 2006/12/01 09:52 what is it with you carcass munchers that makes you so agressive? if you can't answer the original question, don't bother replying because you're really not adding anything to the thread at all.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/01 12:49 no i didn't, you responded to me. tit on a stick.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/01 17:15 this group has no charter.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/01 21:18 Some types of meat involve less animal deaths than some types of veggie products. A serving of grass raised beef could involve less than 1/700 animal deaths. A bag of rice, box of cereal, loaf of bread, etc.... could easily involve several animal deaths.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/01 23:03 Chickens turkeys and pigs are natural omnivores.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/02 06:04 are you talking about animals that aren't quick enough to get away from a combine harvester or something? or road pizza from lorries used in transportation? it's not really the same at all.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/02 20:10 i don't hate anyone. you're the one who seems to have some sort of personality disorder the way you try to pick arguments in a cooking group.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/02 23:56 with no charter, and no faq that i can see, the group is whatever its users want it to be. there are more recipes posted here than anything else, so it's a cookery group. a group where people exchange recipes, and you want to argue about dead mice or something.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/03 05:52 Personally, I would rather herd a sheep or a cow than a bear. My guess is that food animals are such because they are docile.
Carnivores are rarely docile. Lazy sometimes, like lions, but not often placid.

I imagine the thinking went something like, "When I try to brand that animal, will it turn my torso into confetti?"

Tangentially related, I recall reading a SF story (by CJ Cherryh, maybe?) that featured a race of beings that ate only carnivores that also ate only carnivores. This was supposed to imply ultimate superiority on the food chain.
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re:food animals - 2006/12/03 06:30 which was one of the reasons for the phrase naturally herbivorous.
most food sheep are carnivorous now, but not naturally so.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/03 15:28 I'd say food chain issues make keeping carnivourous animals for food even more wasteful. Energy is lost, the further up the food chain you go -
Feeding a cow a ton of veggies than eating it will give you less energy than eating the veggies yourself, as some of the energy in the veggies has gone into the cow moving, breathing, circulating blood etc. Feeding the cow to a dog, or a set of dogs, then eating the dogs gives you even less energy because the dogs will have used some of that energy too. This is stuff I remember from biology; there's probably something similar in place regarding nutrients.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/04 07:52 I had bear once as a kid. It was really tasty, I must admit. It was very different from beef, darker-flavored and a little greasier. I don't know how much of that was due to preparation, though.

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re:food animals - 2006/12/04 10:53 why, do you kick your dog every time you read them or something?



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re:food animals - 2006/12/04 20:23 Normally I have you killfiled, and it's posts like this that make me realise why. Really, come on now. Think this through. We're talking GCSE biology here, it's not that complex.
The point is not that a cow can or cannot process grass better than I can (of course it can). The point is that the more stages in the food chain there are, the smaller the amount of the original energy remains. All energy comes from the sun; filter that energy as sun -> plant -> you and you'll get x energy. Filter it as sun -> plant -> animal -> you, and you'll get less energy, as the animal will have used some to heat its body, move around, moo, think, respire, etc.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/04 22:22 did they taste significantly different to herbivorous animals, or more or less the same? i realise taste is difficult to describe.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/05 05:07 that would make sense. and in the days when we were hunters, cows and sheep would be easier to hunt than lions and tigers and bears. so it would make sense that someone would eventually have the idea of rearing such animals to make them easier to hunt.

i was wondering if maybe it was becuase carnivorous animals didn't taste very nice or something? has anyone here ever eaten one?



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re:food animals - 2006/12/05 09:35 it's more likely just down to greed/looking for ways to save money.



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re:food animals - 2006/12/05 11:26 actually, i think you'll find that that's you. did yer mam run off with a vegan or something?



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re:food animals - 2006/12/05 14:46 you're still the one trolling a cookery group. how lame is that?



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